what I’m hating (grammar edition)

Hollaback Health has done a lot of really good posts on grammar, spelling and punctuation and I’m not trying to rip them off. I love those bitches! But rather than leave them another five-mile-long soulful outpouring of all my favorite grammar tips, I thought I’d share them with YOU in a very special way that – with any luck – will make you hate yourself enough to want to change.*

I would also like to acknowledge the fact that people who aren’t writers are not obligated to care about this stuff. Some of you are very capable, very intelligent graphic designers, applications developers, chemists and surgeons who just franklymydear don’t give a damn about which version of your is correct.

And you know what? I’m willing to overlook it, because you’re probably smarter I am.

But if you fancy yourself a professional writer, there are a few things you need to get through your very thick and probably misshapen skull.

Also, don’t give me any horsey about how you’re lazy or in a hurry. If you expect people who read your work to take you seriously, you need to extend them the courtesy of proper grammar. Unless you think your readers are stupid. DO YOU THINK THEY’RE STUPID? DO YOU?

1. Quotes and punctuation. If you’re putting something in quotations, the punctuation goes inside the quote. Not like “this”. Not ever. No. Nope.

2. Adverbs. This is probably debatable, but AP Style and I prefer you don’t put an “s” at the end of adverbs like backward, forward and toward. (Unless you’re a Brit, in which case we’re all just staring at your teeth rather than listening to you anyway.) Also, using anyways just sounds childish. Don’t do it.

3. It’s not alright. It’s all right. Look it up.

4. Bad/Badly. You feel bad. You spell badly. When you say you feel badly about something, you’re saying the mechanism that allows you to feel things is broken. Maybe you were set on fire and you’re experiencing nerve damage? Maybe you had a lobotomy? If so, my sincerest condolences.

5. The past tense of drag is dragged. Drug refers to pharmacology. (Although I have word from my top-secret military grammar sources that snuck has become an acceptable past tense of sneak. You’ll still never catch me using it.)

6. Over/More than. I hate this one more than anything. Over means “on top of;” more than means “greater than in number.”

7. Comprise/Compose. I heard this used incorrectly on NPR the other day and nearly cried. A whole is composed, or made up of, many smaller parts. To comprise means to contain: “Crack comprises cocaine and baking soda;” but, “crack is composed of cocaine and baking soda.” Easy.

8. An ellipsis…is three periods. Three. Unless you’re intentionally being an asshole………………………

9. Passed/Past. The former is a verb. The latter is everything else.

10. The apostrophe. The apostrophe is used for possessives and contractions and never for plurals. Also: it’s is the contraction of it is; its is the possessive of it. You know what? I can’t believe I’m typing this. If you don’t know the apostrophe rule by now you should just kill yourself.

11. Big words don’t make you sound smarter. In general, try to be economical with your words and don’t speak in the passive voice. What I mean is this: “Breakfast was eaten after yoga was practiced and it was enjoyed by me.”

Active voice: “After yoga, I ate breakfast. It was good.”

Just because a sentence is longer, doesn’t necessarily mean it’s better or more descriptive. And really, if you’re agonizing over ways to make a dull sentence sound more interesting, maybe you should instead ask yourself if that sentence has any value at all.

Don’t use a big word just to sound smart. Don’t use component when item will do just fine; and use is almost always better than utilize. And for goshsakes, please don’t use a word unless you really understand the meaning. You’re already on the internet for the love of god, just swing on over to Dictionary.com and LOOK IT UP.

Last, understanding the internet has bastardized the English language and blogging takes on a more casual and conversational tone, here are few things that, while technically incorrect, are not punishable offenses:

1. Incomplete sentences. They’re fine. Especially when you want to emphasize that you’re being dramatic: “This. Can’t. Be. Real.”
2. Slang. But know where the apostrophe goes when using y’all.
3. Cursing. It’s fucking mainstream.
4. Ending a sentence with a preposition. This is something I’ve given up on.

Last, to completely negate everything I’ve just told you:

Break the rules with intention. Some people have a very unique voice and their poor grammar has a purpose. If it makes you who you are, then it’s right. (But 20 bucks says this exception does not apply to you.)

*Inevitably, there are dozens and dozens of grammar, spelling and punctuation errors in this post. If you email me to tell me about any of them, I will eat your face.

UPDATE 3/24/11, 4:25 p.m.: Well, I called it. Spelled a word wrong in the title. If you were one of the exalted few who read this before I corrected it, consider yourself lucky. It’s like going to a gas station where the “3″ has fallen off the sign and you get to buy gas for $.29. Except that it will probably happen again tomorrow.

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  • Cheryl

    Love your blog and this post. Along with all you’ve listed above, the one that always gets me is “less” versus “fewer.” Aaaaagggghh.

  • http://angryrunner.wordpress.com angryrunner

    ahahahahah YES.

    Also: Where else would the apostrophe in y’all go? How is it possible to make that mistake?

    I shouldn’t ask.

    • http://cheaperthantherapy.wordpress.com/ Marie

      I don’t know where else it would go, but I KNOW WHERE YOU CAN PUT IT!

      • http://www.kendrathroughthelookingglass.com Kendra

        I cringe to think of how long I was guilty of this one until someone finally corrected me. I grew up with southerners, how the hell did no one correct me?

  • http://summerslowrunner.wordpress.com summerslowrunner

    wait so is i not writing this good? i past my english tests in skool ya’ll

    /self

    You deserve a beer (and an Alaskan Pipeline) for this post.

    • http://cheaperthantherapy.wordpress.com/ Marie

      Doesn’t one normally lead to the other?!?

    • http://angryrunner.wordpress.com angryrunner

      Alaskan Pipeline…lolz lolz lolz lolz

  • http://www.gotracygo.com Tracy

    Damn, girl, you are hitting it OUT OF THE PARK these days! Love me a grammar nazi. Booya!

    • http://cheaperthantherapy.wordpress.com/ Marie

      I ♥ u

  • http://www.kendrathroughthelookingglass.com Kendra

    As one of those Hollaback bitches, I love you to.

    • http://cheaperthantherapy.wordpress.com/ Marie

      MUAH!

  • http://www.110pounds.com Lisa

    Awesome. Love this! Especially #8. That really annoys me.

    I screw up on the Passed/Past all the time. I have to double check it whenever I use it. LOL

  • http://www.DailyBeerReview.com Rob

    Wow. I knew you were making those grammatical mistakes throughout on purpose. Never wrote one down.

    You’ve probably heard me complain about grammar on my beer blog once or twice, but I bet you didn’t know Daily Beer Review has a red-headed bastard stepchild that gets totally neglected named http://www.GrammarPrude.com/ It’s not quite as eloquent as this post for sure, but let me know what you think.

    One of my personal favorites has to be… “Will you bring this up to my mother”?

    Yes, I purposely left the punctuation outside of the quote, b/c that’s the way I roll. And I also use a shitload of fucking incomplete sentences. But you let me know when I lose your respect.

    Later.

  • http://www.acrumbfalls.com Clarice

    I teach 10th grade English, and I’ve been editing argumentative essays all day. It was nice to come home to this.

  • http://www.DailyBeerReview.com Rob

    What? You corrected Grammer in the title? I was so sure that was on purpose! Poorly played! You should have strangled anyone who said anything!

    • http://cheaperthantherapy.wordpress.com/ Marie

      I was going to pretend it was intentional but it wasn’t even that funny and it was bugging me.

  • http://runstilettos.blogspot.com shoegal101

    I want to show this to my students, since the word “grammar” evokes groans and eye-rolls in my direction. And I am so glad that you referenced putting punctuation inside parenthesis. People rarely do this.

  • http://onewhitetulip.wordpress.com onewhitetulip

    Anyways is one of the most annoying things people can say. Most of my college professors said it. My respect for them was not high.

    My boss sent me an e-mail today that said “U da gurl!” (Not grammatically incorrect, I guess…just bad in general.) I’m really hoping that he sent it from his blackberry, since that’s pretty much the only thing that would begin to excuse. . . THAT.

  • http://queerveganrunner.wordpress.com Aj from QueerVeganRunner

    Oh honey, the past tense of drag is Lady GaGa.

    I try to avoid the big words but blogging is my outlet for the inner child who used to read the dictionary. No fer realz. As a kid I guessed “putrid” while playing Taboo.

    The correct answer was “rotten.”

    • http://cheaperthantherapy.wordpress.com/ Marie

      AAAAAAHAHAHA. That’s gold.

  • http://onewhitetulip.wordpress.com onewhitetulip

    I don’t think I can insert images into comments, but this picture is a nice pair to this post: http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li6amrRlHI1qz7v0zo1_500.jpg

    • http://cheaperthantherapy.wordpress.com/ Marie

      I love it!

  • http://food4fitness.wordpress.com Eunice @ Food4Fit

    I do the ellipsis thing…. See that there? I added an extra dot. I read your comprise/compose tip 3 times because I wasn’t getting it. Good thing I don’t use those words.

    • http://cheaperthantherapy.wordpress.com/ Marie

      There’s almost never any reason to use them, which is why it pisses me off so much when people use them and use them WRONG. (Wrongly?! LOL.)

  • http://eatdrinkrun.wordpress.com shelby

    #8 – unless you’re ending a sentence, and then it’s fourrrrrrr…………….

    (Right?)

    • http://cheaperthantherapy.wordpress.com/ Marie

      Yes, and a space between the punctuation and the ellipsis, right? …

      And according to Wikipedia, when placed at the end of a sentence, the ellipsis can also inspire a feeling of melancholy longing.

      But it doesn’t cite a reference.

      • http://eatdrinkrun.wordpress.com shelby

        How very astute, Wikipedia.

  • http://performanceproduction.wordpress.com performanceproduction

    There are actually one or two occasions in which punctuation inside quotation marks are appropriate………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….I just don’t remember what they are.

  • http://myrunningshorts.wordpress.com runshorts

    Regrettably, most of my mistakes are ones of carelessness or ignorance. I do enjoy cultural differences in grammar, spelling, and language use. Canadians and Brits place punctuation outside the quotation marks … (sidebar: I overuse the ellipsis – I like the way it looks – and I add extra .s all the time because I simply do not have enough free time to backspace) … I was taught the the punctuation only went in the quote if it was part of the quote, but if the punctuation was part of the general sentence it went outside the quotes. Very logical. Mass reliance on MS Office grammar has inflicted US conventions northward, so now both are acceptable in this land of anything goes.

    I have many grammatical quirks, like starting sentences with and (informal writing only), which have probably repelled more than a few readers.

    • http://cheaperthantherapy.wordpress.com/ Marie

      Yeah, you’re right. I found an example: Do you agree with the saying, “All’s fair in love and war”?

      But I still don’t like it. =P

      • http://myrunningshorts.wordpress.com runshorts

        I won’t let it go to my head. I’ve split an infinitive or two in my day – keeps me grounded.

  • http://www.twitter.com/not_margaret maggie

    OK, but it is alrighty or alrightie? Or should I just stick with okie dokie?

    • http://cheaperthantherapy.wordpress.com/ Marie

      Yes! And you have to say “artichokey” either out loud or to yourself.

      • http://angryrunner.wordpress.com angryrunner

        For some reason the idea of saying OKIE DOKIE ARTICHOKEY almost made me fall off my chair…

  • Laura

    What if someone uses commas instead of periods in an ellipsis? I think if I killed someone out of frustration/annoyance for doing so, it would probably be pardoned in court.

    • http://cheaperthantherapy.wordpress.com/ Marie

      Acquitted! Also: HULK SMASH!!

  • http://thenchangeit.com Kace

    Ha, nice. I was planning on bringing up grammar at some point, but more spoken language than written (ps, then/than–big one). I am guilty of the extra s; anyways, towards, etc. It’s a local accent Philly thing. I draw the line at “yous” though. As in “yous guys”. That comes from NE Philly, thank God I’m from the suburbs.

  • TJM

    Don’t forget under way vs. underway.

  • http://loteriachicana.net cindylu

    We should all just hire copy editors. I’m sure there are a bunch out there who could use the work.

    A few confessions:
    1. Whenever I screw up with language, typically spoken, not written, I blame it on English being my second language (even though that’s false).

    2. I love the Grammar Girl podcast.

    • http://cheaperthantherapy.wordpress.com/ Marie

      Ha! Agreed – and I ♥ Grammar Girl!

  • Betsy

    Best. Grammar. Post. Ever. Y’all!

    Seriously, I consider myself a spelling and grammar nerd and totally learned something new. I love learning. And #10 is the bane of my existence. For the love of god, the DVDs don’t own anything.

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  • Dan

    After a list of peeves that includes more/over, I’m amazed that you then go on to use “very unique,” apparently without irony.

    • http://cheaperthantherapy.wordpress.com/ Marie

      What’s irony?

    • http://angryrunner.wordpress.com angryrunner

      OOOOOO IRONY! I LOVE IRONY! I AM IRONIC! I AM A GRAMMAR NAZI!

  • jaroslav hasek

    the ability to recognize and point out other’s grammar failures must make you a hit at parties. people love it when you try to correct them. especially when they aren’t wrong and it’s just a style choice that you prefer, yet you insist on telling them that are incorrect and stupid. you must make tons of friends with this behavior.

    and i’m so glad there are so many like minded people it the comment section. real A+ personalities all the way!

    • http://cheaperthantherapy.wordpress.com/ Marie

      Actually my boobs make me a hit at parties, not my personality.

      • http://queerveganrunner.wordpress.com Aj from QueerVeganRunner

        I believe it’s “others’ grammar failures.”

        But I’m sure Marie and her boobs will let me know if I’m wrong.

    • http://angryrunner.wordpress.com angryrunner

      She also sucks a mean cock.

      Besides, you’re dead. What do you care? (OOOO USING THE NAME OF A DEAD WRITER WHILE COMMENTING ON A BLOG MAKES YOU UNIQUE! OOOO LOOK HOW HOW OBSCURE A WRITER I AM! BRB GOING BACK TO SNIFFING MOMMY’S UNDERPANTS.)

      • http://cheaperthantherapy.wordpress.com/ Marie

        AAAAAAHAHAHA. I love you.

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  • http://segalbooks.blogspot.com Ray Girvan

    “Unless you’re a Brit, in which case we’re all just staring at your teeth”

    Yes, I guess it must be very strange, to people from a culture where it’s the norm to get into crippling debt having one’s teeth replaced with ludicrous oversized luminous porcelain chiclets, to see anatomically normal teeth.

  • Anonymous

    My readers are not stupid enough to take a lot of this seriously. Good grammar is essential and I always adhere to it. But I also always put punctuation marks outside the quotes where they belong and people like Partridge (the writer of “You Have a Point There”, the best book on punctuation) and others advise. I do what is logical and sensible. The half-witted American convention that the punctuation marks go inside the quotes exists because there was a time when that is how type-setters had to do it because of technical limitations in old-fashioned machines. Only in America could anyone think this was a rule of “grammar”.

    Number 2 is certainly arguable and nothing to do with grammar.

    Number 3: I’ve been tracking it in dictionaries and corpora for years. You don’t think the battle may not be already lost? Sorry, should that be all ready? Alright means ok, and All right means all correct.

    Number 4: You should look that one up.

    Number 5: True. But I have never heard anyone use “drug” in that sense. Snuck started out as a jocular usage. I wouldn’t use it a formal register either, but it’s fine in informal or colloquial usage.

    Number 6: The OED gives 15 odd meanings for “over”. If someone lives “over the road” they don’t live on top of you. Over can mean above and the OED accepts such expressions as “over 20%”, “over 50″, and so on. I find it difficult to believe you are serious about this. Are you over or under 25?

    Number 7: There is an accepted distinction between the two, but you haven’t described it accurately.

    Number 8: I thought that an ellipsis should be four periods if it came at the end of a sentence (one of the dots is the period).

    Numbers 9 to 11 Ok except for criticism of the passive voice. About 20% of Orwell’s famous essay about the degeneration of the language was in the passive. Newspaper writing had about 15% in the passive. Appropriate use of the passive is a sign of a sophisticated writer.

    • http://cheaperthantherapy.me Marie

      TL;DR

      • Anonymous

        Never mind, it’s possible there may be some people out there amongst your readers with attention spans greater than that of a hairy-nosed wombat. Yes, it’s doubtful, I know, but not impossible. And if there aren’t, it is my own fault for writing at a level that only bright teenagers and above would understand. (I say this in a caring way.)

      • http://sweatykid.wordpress.com Cathleen

        As a biologist and nature educator, I take issue with this comment. You discredit yourself by employing a misguided and egregious slight against the hairy-nosed wombat. Your wildly deficient understanding of this animal’s intricacies undermines your point and serves to proliferate unfair stereotypes that promote a reduced understanding of and appreciation for the natural world. I say this only with care and concern. Please either research or spend time in the field observing and studying hairy-nosed wombats before abusing them in simile again.

      • http://cheaperthantherapy.me Marie

        I love you.

      • http://angryrunner.wordpress.com/ AR

        HEY LOOK AT MEEEEEEE I COMMENT ON POSTS THAT ARE MONTHS OLD! LOOK AT ME!!!! I’M SO SMART! IT IS A FAVOR! TO YOU! TO ALL OF YOU!

        BRB FAPPING NOW

  • Anonymous

    Cut the poor old oldies a bit of slack. Schools used to teach people to put apostrophes in years — 1950′s, and in a whole raft of other situations: p’s and q’s, for example. Apostrophes are used in contractions and in the genitive (which covers a lot more than just possession: e.g. “A week’s rent”, and so on). Why can’t they also be used to reduce ambiguity in other situations? I’m all for making the language more logical, if possible, and I follow the modern trend of leaving the apostrophes out of years myself. But if you just explain quietly and politely to people that apostrophes aren’t being used quite the same way they used to be, they are more likely to listen to you. (If you really want unbelievers to listen to you.)

  • Anonymous

    The correct spelling is “youse”, as in “youse guys finished conversating yet?” Please try to get it right.

  • Anonymous

    Courts don’t pardon people. I suspect that if you murdered someone for using commas in an ellipsis (which sounds like a typo or performance error — the two keys are next to each other) your best defense would be insanity.

  • Anonymous

    Alright is All right.

  • Anonymous

    What is wrong with doing it logically?

    “When grammar and logic are in conflict, logic must prevail”.
    Fowler

  • Anonymous

    People rarely do it because anyone of normal intelligence can see it’s a moronic rule that makes no sense.

  • Anonymous

    There is no rule of English grammar that says you cannot split infinitives. That’s a rule of Latin grammar.

  • Anonymous

    Under “comprise” sense 8, the OED gives:

    8.b To constitute, make up, compose.

    8.c pass. To be composed of, to consist of.

    So the greater Oxford lists them as synonyms.

  • Anonymous

    I must remember to make sure my responses are in 100 words or less or the dim-wits who read this Blog won’t be able to concentrate long enough to read them.

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